#84: From Refugee to Millionaire - The Incredible Story of Siavash Fashi

Welcome to The Creator's Adventure where we interview creators from around the world, hearing their stories about growing a business.

Today, we have a truly inspiring speaker joining us, Siavash Fashi, the founder and CEO of Six Packs Gym in California.

Siavash's journey is one of resilience, determination, and the pursuit of the American dream.

From growing up in war-torn Iran and facing discrimination to starting a successful gym business from scratch, Siavash has truly overcome incredible obstacles.

In this episode, Siavash shares his experiences, from challenging the trauma of his past to the rewards of growing his gym and even writing a book.

Siavash Fashi is the Founder and CEO of Six Pax Gym, a unique “old school” fitness gym based in California.

Growing up in Iran during the war, he faced incredible hardships before moving to the United States in 2007 as an asylum immigrant with no money and speaking very little English.

Despite the odds, he invested all of his savings and started his own gym. SixPax Gym is now the #1 personal training gym in Culver City.

The business now generates $1M in Annual Recurring Revenue and Siavash finally managed to live his American Dream.

Learn more about Siavash: https://www.sixpaxgym.com/personal-training-gym


Siavash Fashi [00:00:00]:

I didn't wanna accept it. I was just you know what? I'm not going down like this. I have 100. My dad gave me a $100, and I left the country. Ended up in Europe, sleeping in pizza shop, restaurants. No one had faith that it's gonna something gonna

Bryan McAnulty [00:00:12]:

happen. Welcome to the creator's adventure, where we interview creators from around the world hearing their stories about growing a business. Today's guest has an inspiring story to share. They've overcome a vast amount of adversity, Going through war, dealing with cancer, moving to a new country, going to prison, having no money, they were able to build a 7 figure business despite All of that and still growing. Hey, everyone. I'm Brian McAnulty, the founder of Heights Platform. Let's get into it. Hey, everyone.

Bryan McAnulty [00:00:47]:

We're here today with Sivash Fashi. He is the founder and CEO of Six Packs Gym, a unique old school fitness gym in California. Growing up in Iran during the war, he faced incredible hardships before moving to the United States in 2007 as an asylum immigrant with no money and speaking very little English. Despite the odds, he invested all of his savings and started his own gym. Six packs gym is now the number one personal training gym in Culver City. The business now generates $1,000,000 in annual recurring revenue, and Sabash finally managed to live his American dream. Sabash, welcome to the show.

Siavash Fashi [00:01:27]:

Thank you, Brian, for having me. First, I wanna thank you for creating a space for people like me to tell their story. Thank you so much.

Bryan McAnulty [00:01:34]:

Sure. Yeah. I appreciate that. So my first question for you is, what would you say is the biggest thing either that you did or you are doing that has helped you to achieve the freedom to do what you enjoy?

Siavash Fashi [00:01:46]:

The biggest one I would say, myself. Without growing myself, I could not grow the business. So this journey of me growing alongside the business, that was the most challenging because I had to knock out so many belief system that I built throughout the years, in order, to grow the business. So I think that was what was holding me back, and I that's been the most challenging.

Bryan McAnulty [00:02:10]:

Yeah. That's that's a great one. I feel like, that's less often mentioned in that way that you did that. I mean, I realized it for myself. There's so many things in business that it's not even so much that you are learning like a skill, But you're realizing a belief you had is not the way that it actually works. The world actually works. Business actually works. And you have to kind of make those discoveries by going through

Siavash Fashi [00:02:37]:

them. Yeah. It seems like most of them for us, of course, everywhere. Like, your audience, people who are pushing it hard and entrepreneur. We have that, you know, hardcore just push, push, push, and understanding yourself along the way, how you react to stuff, how you make decision, and understanding that, understanding yourself, it will be a, I mean, it will help you big time big time to grow your business. You can't be the the person that was making a $100,000 and and, expecting $1,000,000 business. You have to change along on the way and go forward with it. Yeah.

Bryan McAnulty [00:03:14]:

Definitely. So you have a crazy life story to share with us today. I wanna take it kinda 1 step at a time. You grew up in Iran during the war with Iraq and faced some, incredible hardships. Can you kinda paint a picture, of your childhood and then, like, what motivated you to escape the war and move abroad?

Siavash Fashi [00:03:35]:

Yeah. Absolutely. So I think that's a I'll always share this story just to, hopefully inspire others to push through. In 1980, I was born in 1980. And 6 months later, the war broke out between Iran and Iraq and cost millions of lives. I remember being 8 years old standing, side of the rode hundreds of dead body on a truck coming home, and we were part of a religious minority. And in Iran, they consider us as infidel, so they were not giving us job. My dad, the whole village that we're from, we worked, basically, everyone was poverty was just squeezing us, and government was bringing, people and, hang them in our in in neighborhood to put fear on our hearts.

Siavash Fashi [00:04:16]:

So I remember being 8 years old, stare at these 2 guys. They got hanged and out in the street for 2 weeks. I I didn't have any kind of feeling. The question was always, when it's my turn, my dad was sent to war. You never knew if he's gonna come back or not. The shortage of food, me standing on a line to get some bread, bring home, and we were 4 kids at a time. And we were 4 kids. I was the oldest, so all the pressure was I mean, the the life was so painful outside.

Siavash Fashi [00:04:45]:

The the only escape was basically being delusional and creating a world for yourself. Bodybuilding, boxing, chess, everything was illegal. Even music was illegal in the beginning of a revolution, just like what we've seen in Afghanistan right now. So it's, It was no escape, and it was only 2 channel propaganda just constantly showing war and, of course, this ideology they were pushing on us. The war ended. We start moving from town to town. And I was around 18 years old when I I got cancer in my right eye, and it wasn't treatable in Iran so that it wasn't a treatment at everyone. Anywhere I go, people would cry for me.

Siavash Fashi [00:05:25]:

You know, they thing I said, I'm gonna die pretty soon, and I was just I I couldn't. I had to I didn't wanna accept it. I was just you know what? I'm not going down like this. I remember just going to anybody's house that people were having, like, a looking at me with mercy and, like, they just No one had faith that it's gonna something gonna happen. And I have 100. My dad gave me $100, and I left the country. I left the country through ended up in Europe, sleeping in pizza shop, restaurants. Just about when I was in Iran, the biggest thing one of the biggest thing happened to me, I was around 12 years old.

Siavash Fashi [00:06:00]:

I saw a picture of Arnold. I saw a picture of Arnold. We bodybuilding was legal. I've never seen someone. I said, what the hell? Who is this guy? He looked happy. He looked big, and I was as a kid, I wasn't a lighter skin than all the other kids, and I had the green eyes. So I was getting bullied, and I was kind of a, it wasn't fun. It wasn't fun because I I couldn't protect myself.

Siavash Fashi [00:06:22]:

Also, I was doing taekwondo. I ended up getting black belt, but none of it was helping. When I saw Arnold picture, I said, wow. This guy has it all. He's happy. He's by the beach. He's determined. Nobody gonna mess with this guy.

Siavash Fashi [00:06:33]:

Bodybuilding became my, dream. So I wanted to be a bodybuilder. I ended up as I said, I ended up in England, sleeping in pizza shop, and passing out flyers here and there. But in England, unfortunately, we were refugees and people didn't a good outlook into us every day where it was on TV. These people are coming here. It's so many ugly world and word. And my English wasn't good at the beginning. I didn't understand much what's going on.

Siavash Fashi [00:07:00]:

But the once I start learning a little bit here and there, I was reading Bodybody Magazine to learn English. So at the pizza shop. When I was sleeping, I was just flipping. I wanted to know how these guy what are they doing? I wanted to be them so badly. So England was really, really ugly toward, us at the time of, at the time, people were a lot of mean word because we run away from our country because, because of the religious problem. You know? Because they were minority and, always discriminated against us because of, the religion. And now here, We're getting this command based on race. I was really disappointed on it.

Siavash Fashi [00:07:35]:

So I say, you know what? This this is not it. I wanna be Arnold. I'm gonna go to America. So I bought the fake passport and, say, you know what? Do or die. I'm gonna go. And, throughout the process, I lost my right eye, with the laser surgery. I did a, paper and I lost my right eye, and they told me it's gonna probably come back in 15 years, and that's gonna be it. I said, you know what? I'm gonna go pursue this dream.

Siavash Fashi [00:07:57]:

And I bought the fake passport. A junk that came to America. As soon as the plane landed, they arrested me for having a fake passport. And because I was a little bit bigger and I could speak a little English. They thought I'm a terrorist, militant from Iran. So I ended up with in the 1st year of coming to America, I ended up in maximum security prison, where they thought CIA, FBI, all these Homeland Security, they were interviewing me. They're taking me 6, 7 hours a day. No food's pushing me to break to see if I'm doing something wrong.

Siavash Fashi [00:08:25]:

After almost a year, there were, of course, after all the background check, everything they they did, there was nothing, and the judge, of course, granted me asylum. And at that moment, I told myself, you know what? They give me the chance to stay. I'm gonna be a productive member of this place so they don't, they'll be proud of it that they let me stay. So I came out. I was homeless in Chicago. They when they let me out, I was homeless in cargo. Then I called 1 of these guys who was in prison. It was rough.

Siavash Fashi [00:08:54]:

And when I was on the street because I had no shoelaces, no money under the bridge, all these, gangs and all the everybody knew I'm out of prison. I could tell because of the code now. I learned a lot code and stuff again in prison. So I said, hey. If I'm out here, I'm gonna either get killed or kill someone and go back to prison. So I called 1 of the guy in jail. He he became a Christian. He was a Christian.

Siavash Fashi [00:09:15]:

He was always praying, and I called him and said, hey, man. I'm on the street. Can you help me out? So he he picked me up with his family, and they throw a mattress in the basement. And I was just there sometime ago, clean houses with them. What about could do? I just give up money and buy a microwave. What about I could do for them? But Chicago snowed, and I hated the snow because I grew up in snow. And I remember those days of standing in line when I was a kid, standing up to get bread. It was reminding you of bad times.

Siavash Fashi [00:09:42]:

So you know what? I'm gonna go to California. I gotta be Arnold. I jump on a train. I had $140. I jumped in a train. It took me 2, 3 days to get here. I got here. And, again, I was homeless on California here in LA.

Siavash Fashi [00:09:53]:

It's a little bit. And I found a security job. I found a security job. I worked graveyard shift, but I was sharp. And I was now I'm going to Gold's Gym, and I'm bodybuilding. I said, okay. This is it. My wife, I'm gonna be the mister Olympiad.

Siavash Fashi [00:10:07]:

I'm gonna be the champion. I was working as security guard for a little while. After 2, 3 years of working 7 days a week, and I I went, I got my refugee passport. Now it's 12 years past. I've never seen my family. I've never seen my brother and my nobody. So I I went to Turkey because I can't go to Iran. So I went to Turkey.

Siavash Fashi [00:10:27]:

I saw them all growing, and here I am. After 12 years, I have nothing. I'm a kind of a loser. On the way back, I said, man, I've gotta do something. This is not working. I came back, to my security job, and and they fired me. They fired me because the and they said, the guy had his own brother as an as a security, and he he kicked me out. So I went to unemployment for being being fired unfairly.

Siavash Fashi [00:10:55]:

They gave me $3,000, back pay. With that $3,000, I said, this is all I have in my name. I found a spot here in Culver City for $1900. The guy wanted $1900 for rent, and he wanted The deposit, I said, hey, brother. I don't have them. I think just give me 1 month. I'll give you the rest of it. There it was just an empty room with I had 1 bar and a 2, 3 dumbles, and I put the gym come lose lose weight.

Siavash Fashi [00:11:22]:

But I knew a lot about bodybuilding. I I was I was the expert. I was really, really good at it. I was I was competing on bodybuilding. I knew exactly what I'm doing, but I didn't have anything, any money. So with the bar and a couple of, I would killed them. A lot of time people would come and say, where's the gym? This is it. Just sign up.

Siavash Fashi [00:11:38]:

Give me some money. I'll I'll buy a mat. So buy the dumble. The and people with actually in America. What I love about America is people are they have an abundance mindset. They think there is enough for all of us. I got help. You know, people believe right away, they did help me.

Siavash Fashi [00:11:53]:

They they saw the passion in me, and they helped me. They didn't put obstacle in front of me. They They they they loved it that I was so crazy that I that I have this belief. They gave me the money, and, I get them in shape. They bring their friend. I remember I trained 1 of the doctors that came here, and, I trained him. I got him 6 packs. He was a young guy.

Siavash Fashi [00:12:13]:

He just graduate he just became a doctor. Got it. And he brought 12 of his brand doctors. And that's when I realized how much I know because they were all listening to my nutrition advice. I got them all in shape, and it gave me a lot of confidence. So I'm going, I'm running this system of 1 on 1 training with them, but I couldn't get ahead. I'm like, what's happening here? I can't get ahead. I'm getting this money.

Siavash Fashi [00:12:35]:

I'm spending it right away. 2, 3 years passed by. And then one day, one of these clients came in. He was a it was yeah. It was a he was overweight. He wanted to lose weight, and he was a soft spoken, very nice guy. He said, hey. You're doing everything wrong, and the business doing wrong.

Siavash Fashi [00:12:51]:

And, you should change your Formula do it this way. Your business is like Apple. It's like a formula. I said, what? I'm killing people here. You're talking about Apple. So I started listening to him. His name is Daniel Rosen. He had a software company just like your audience that everybody's online.

Siavash Fashi [00:13:06]:

He was actually his business, was a software, But his formula applied to a gym just like mine, who was a physical, gym. So I start training people in a group. I start people in the group, and I start making a recurring plans. And instead of you paying me for session, you pay me a monthly fee. So your monthly fee and you stay in my system. Provide you the diet, the training, the whole 9 yard, and I get you in shape. So you can go in and out as any time you want. You can get refund at any time you want.

Siavash Fashi [00:13:34]:

And one of the thing a joint ClickFunnel community, and I started learning a little bit of marketing. Little marketing. And once we went to a marketing event, I mean, the, the click funnel event, it was way over my head. I didn't understand what these people are talking about, but I was just catching a little bit here and there. So and Daniel joined this program called simple operation with Alex Sharfen and encouraged me to join him as well. So in that simple operation helped me big time to get my business. At the time, I was just by myself. I was training 50, 60 people a day, and I was killing myself from 5:30 in the morning till 8 at night.

Siavash Fashi [00:14:08]:

And my gym is a is a little gas station that I converted to a gym. It's, 800 square foot, so that's it. No gym in America. No gym. Not even a 1 single gym from this square footage make this much money that I am currently making. So Alex Charfen taught me how to build a team. So I start building a team. Now I have 6 people working at the gym.

Siavash Fashi [00:14:30]:

I'm completely pulled out of the gym. I am face of the gym, and I attend, podcasts just like you. Thank you, Brian, again, for putting me here. I appreciate, what you're doing. Now I'm just putting myself out there getting exposure because my next step and my vision for this gym is To have a small gym like this old school gym that provide no BS, just right to the, to the money, getting people in shape. And, so many people has been affected. And people of my community have been affected by little this little gym. I build a community, and I want to pass on to other part of the America.

Siavash Fashi [00:15:04]:

This little gym's serving communities because I believe the commercial gym has killed the vibe. That stuff that I was watching from Iran, looking at Gold's Gym here, that, group of bodybuilders, they're having fun together. That is gone, and I want to bring that because that inspired me. So I want to teach other people to do the same. And so, that's why our through the COVID, when there was a shutdown, And a lot of people pivoted and from that going to online, I hang in there. What I did was for 3 months, I sat in my garage with my dog, Rhino, and I wrote a book. I wrote I wrote this book. It took me 3 years to get it to this point, a small gym, big results.

Siavash Fashi [00:15:43]:

And Those 3 months, it was a therapy for myself. That's why I tell your audience this it's reflecting on where you come from and writing your story and, understanding why you're doing this. And I was writing and crying, writing and crying because I never reflected on what I did. I just I was just keep pushing forward, keep pushing forward. It wasn't the best therapy I would say for myself. And now this book is, recently became available, and it's out there on Amazon. And I'm getting a lot of great feedback about it. The next as I said, my vision is to have this gym all over the place, and I will be moving The similar as all of you guys are doing.

Siavash Fashi [00:16:22]:

I'll be online coaching these people to start a gym from nothing just like the way I did with minimal equipment and all the way to making it as a successful gym like myself and living as the American dream as you said it earlier. Now I'm I bought a house right next to the beach in LA. I've I've ordered muscle car, toys, lot of stuff. So, I'm I'm living the dream, brother, and I'm enjoying every minute of it.

Bryan McAnulty [00:16:47]:

Cool. So, yeah, it's interesting you mentioned, Alex Sharfen. So he lives in the same city as me. We're Facebook friends, but I haven't actually spoken to him, in person yet. But, yeah, that's interesting. So my question for you is actually, like, you faced all these challenges in your life as you described. And I think, like, many entrepreneurs and creators out there have given up facing much less adversity than you have. So, like, despite all this, you still found that motivation to to keep working on your dreams and never give up.

Bryan McAnulty [00:17:20]:

How did you manage to stay positive when Faced with all

Siavash Fashi [00:17:23]:

this. I believe the way I've, I have, I the way I look at people that they give up, I think they analyze too much. It's good to I mean, everyone that I've seen in entrepreneur world, they are very educated people. They come from university or they come and, of course, that's analytic mind. And is it good? Absolutely. You should look at your stuff, but analyzing too much will cause you doubt, in my opinion. I just wake up. I come to the gym.

Siavash Fashi [00:17:50]:

You know? I just I There's no like a, hey. Did I do good last month? It's like at this stage, especially at the beginning, the growth should not, in my opinion, would be your concern at the beginning. The main thing is connection. Make make friends. In LA, I know everyone. Whatever you need, I can get it. I know doc I go to doctor for free. I get dentist free.

Siavash Fashi [00:18:14]:

I had any like, My website is done by my, my, clients. The all my waivers written by lawyers here at the gym. I have saved 1,000 and 1,000, 100 of 1,000 of dollars by knowing these people. And as I said, the the great, great culture in America versus the rest of the world, I was part of that world. The rest of the world, they think if you come, there is less for them. In America, they think people think there's enough for all of us. And I love this. I love this idea.

Siavash Fashi [00:18:42]:

And, make friend. People wanna help you. Every neighbor here, they wanna contribute to me. They I'll come here. You know, it's just like, the connection is, back in the day, who had the power or who had the money, who had the I think I believe these days is all about connection. And look. I I reached out to you and you give me this opportunity. You know? You just that's it.

Siavash Fashi [00:19:03]:

I didn't spend money. I didn't do anything. I'll just reach out, and you were kind enough to put me on on your show that you put so much work to put it together. You have I'm sure you have editors. So many people, big team, and here I am enjoying, enjoying this fruit of your labor pretty much. So I would highly recommend to all the entrepreneur that are listening to you, stop analyzing, rising, get to enjoying it. Good things are gonna come, and it takes time. Rome wasn't building well.

Siavash Fashi [00:19:30]:

Just go. Just get up and go to work. And with a good attitude, chew, and people wanna be around winners, I think. And then people wanna be around the person that smiles, not around the person that is stressed out. And So that's I think that was my point.

Bryan McAnulty [00:19:44]:

I think that's really important. And, like, the mindset is contagious in a way. So It's really important to surround yourselves surround yourself around those other people who have that that mindset of abundance as well. And, like, when they when they see you have it, like, as you mentioned, like, you started this and they see it. It's like, wait. He says he has a gym, but there's There's not really a gym here yet. And but they see you're doing it. And, like, that that in itself is is contagious for them to wanna support you as you mentioned.

Siavash Fashi [00:20:13]:

Yeah. And iron sharpens iron. And one thing I wanna tell them, the audience that are listening, share your vision. I've noticed a lot of people that hold it back. The team people will steal it from you. No one can no one can steal this from you. No one. This they might copy you.

Siavash Fashi [00:20:28]:

They might people come copy me, but I always share my vision, what I wanna do, and I get people decided they wanna join this movement. They wanna contribute to it. So by holding it to yourself or hiding it in a closet thinking someone gonna You missing a lot of opportunity, a lot of opportunity. There is no way if it's in your heart, it's your calling. It's your kind. There is no one can take it. Someone come imitated this and that because they do it for money. You doing it passion.

Siavash Fashi [00:20:54]:

You're doing it for love of it. There's no one can beat that in my opinion. So have no fear and constantly be in people faces. Put it out there that what you're doing and people the right people will join the movement.

Bryan McAnulty [00:21:06]:

Yeah. Yeah. I love that because yeah. So many people are afraid of, like, oh, I'm gonna have a competitor then. They're gonna copy me. But If anything, like, the competitor can't beat you then if that's all they're gonna do because all they can do is copy what you've done, But they can't copy the vision that you have in your head of why you're doing these things. So no. The the best case, like, Scenario for the competitor is there always a step behind you.

Bryan McAnulty [00:21:32]:

Yeah. So it's it's really not something that works.

Siavash Fashi [00:21:35]:

Brian is in my opinion, competitor makes you better. If you're If you remember Muhammad Ali because he fought Joe Frazier, you remember Mike Tyson because he fought even the upon the Holyfield. So You remember people with the battle with the great. You don't remember the guy who fought some nobody. I want to want that's why I'm challenging all the gyms around me. I am number 1. I'm dominant up, and not because I wanna they have family. They need to eat.

Siavash Fashi [00:22:00]:

They need but I'm making better. They gotta step up the game. On my phone here, I have 77,000 pictures and video I posted about my gym on the stories and said, No one can beat me. Nobody. There is no way someone can love this game more than I do, and he has to raise his love for this game in order to compete. And let's bring it I'll make you better. You make it. There is enough for all of us.

Siavash Fashi [00:22:23]:

Even if the guys competitive, open another gym down the street, there's 700,000 people live in this one little town. So I just need 300 of them. My gym is my I'm maxing I'm maxed at 300. I don't take any more clients. I'm about to Right now, about today, as of today, I'm right about 290, 287, 290. So for me, it's it's this gym is a mecca of body to me as a of what I've built, and I want them to copy me. So don't be scared of competition. Bring it on.

Siavash Fashi [00:22:50]:

Bring it on, baby. Just let's go. Let's let's fight there. Let's fight it and get better.

Bryan McAnulty [00:22:54]:

Yeah. That's a great point. Yeah. There's definitely there's enough there for everybody. Like, it's so rare for a business to get to the point of scale that You're you're so large. You've captured so much of of Europe, even small market that you have to worry about there there not being enough clients left. And and also to the point about the the competition. Like, imagine, like, a baseball team, a basketball team.

Bryan McAnulty [00:23:18]:

How good is a a team going to be able to be if there is no other team to compete against?

Siavash Fashi [00:23:22]:


Bryan McAnulty [00:23:23]:

If you're if you're playing against yourself, you're you're never gonna be able to get as good as if you have someone to to actually compete against. So

Siavash Fashi [00:23:29]:

Exactly. And the

Bryan McAnulty [00:23:30]:

win is That's a great way to think about

Siavash Fashi [00:23:31]:

it. Yeah. And I love to beat the best guy. I don't wanna beat the guy that who's not good.

Bryan McAnulty [00:23:35]:

Wanna Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You you want to, yeah, you wanna be able to play against the better people. It's it's what helps you improve.

Bryan McAnulty [00:23:43]:

So, if you if you didn't have that that competition, then it's easy it's easy for yourself to lose motivation to think, oh, I'm okay with where I'm at. It's good.

Siavash Fashi [00:23:53]:

Exactly. Exactly. You get comfortable. You go to comfort zone.

Bryan McAnulty [00:23:57]:

Correct. Yeah. So alright. So you started this gym. You're now, like, diversifying the business model more, and, you have the book, and now you're planning to, like, scale it more online. Can you share maybe, like, what are some of the the challenges that you faced so far in doing that? And what would you recommend to Our audience

Siavash Fashi [00:24:20]:

who's All the challenges right now that I'm going to online space. Everyone that I work with, they're so much smarter than me. I I attend the meetings, and most of time I'm just nodding my head, and I'm acting like I know what's going on. I don't they all these people are helping me, and, it's just me having the confident that having the faith that the good things are kind of like, I'm doing this, I'm building this old this whole value ladder of how to license my gym. So these steps So completely new. It's just a it's a new world for me. And, I'm just trying to constantly get educated. I try to, as I said, it's a kind of a right now is a personal growth more than anything else because I have to have a confidence of saying, this is it.

Siavash Fashi [00:25:04]:

This is the gym. And this conviction is very, very hard because you I from where I come from, and many of your audience, I'm pretty sure where they come from. If they're coming from bottom bootstrapping, coming to a position that to claim this kind of thing is very, very hard in your heart. You know? You just kinda you challenge the trauma from ass, blah blah blah. These are coming up that I'm right now. I'm like, for example, doing, Alex again recommend to all all the entrepreneurs to do EMDR therapy, which is a very, very fascinating thing. And I recommend people who have a little bit of a past, try it. It's very effective, and it has been Really helpful to me.

Siavash Fashi [00:25:40]:

So the

Bryan McAnulty [00:25:40]:

right now EMDR?

Siavash Fashi [00:25:43]:

Correct. EMDR. This is for soldiers that coming back from wars and stuff like that. It's a light therapy, and it's Extremely, effective. You I mean, you you see it on a day 1. You do it, and that day, you've you know that you've changed. It's, it's been very helpful. So my right now, my goal, my challenge is all on me right now.

Siavash Fashi [00:26:02]:

I I put my whole work on the gym, and gym is running like a machine. My trainers are here. I made him a leader. I'm constantly pouring the knowledge into them versus the client. Now that role has shift. Now the shift of me passing it on to gym builders, this shift is very hard, so I'm keep coming back To my own client, I'm coming back to going back to my comfort zone, which was teaching people, training people. So that's that shift I'm working on, that that has been a that's been a very hard shift. And, of course, at one point was letting go.

Siavash Fashi [00:26:35]:

When I start having the team, I could not let it go. I couldn't trust. That was a very 6 months of almost like a depression. Almost you just get so, But I went through that, and I I got that one down. Now I'm in a I'm on the next phase of it.

Bryan McAnulty [00:26:53]:

Awesome. Yeah. Well, what I would say is from, our little research, learning about you before I spoke with you here, and even Speaking with you now, what I'm noticing is, like, your conviction for creating that content and putting it out there and making sure everybody Knows about you and your message. I think that's, something to be said that, like, even though you, like, Mentioned that you don't feel that you understand the online world in a lot of ways. You're doing something that a lot of people who may even understand the online better than you do are not doing because they're worried about, like, oh, well, what if this one's not good enough, or maybe I haven't learned this yet? And so I think you're you're leading by a good example there that It doesn't matter if you don't know it all yet about online. Make make that content and put the message out there.

Siavash Fashi [00:27:43]:

I I believe if you're the dumbest in a room, you're in the right room. So if you're if you're a dumb if everybody's smarter than me here, there's one way for me to get a smarter. That's it. There's no I'm not I can't go down. I've gotta level up. So that's it. If you want, I remember one time I wanted to it was a I had a meeting with the Facebook, and there was a bunch of bunch people were helping me to go, and they asked me, put Facebook slash business.com or something. I was having a hard time spelling, and 3 people that are the company worth 100 of 1,000,000 dollars, they were telling me to spell it.

Siavash Fashi [00:28:19]:

You have 2 choices. To be hard on yourself, say, oh my god. I'm stupid or I'm what am I? Or I smile. I said, wow. Look at this. I'm sitting here with this million. They spell they're helping me. Did they care? No.

Siavash Fashi [00:28:31]:

They love me. They love me for being so real. And if you have the rough edges, you don't know something, ask. No problem. You I've I've noticed, especially in the online thing, people wanna be perfect. They wanna act like, no. I show my clients. I show everybody my rough edges, My mistakes.

Siavash Fashi [00:28:47]:

You know what? I'm a human just like them. I only know one thing little better than them, and that's fitness. The rest of my life is not I'm not perfect. The only thing I know more than you is fitness. That's it. I'm not trying to act like, oh, I know it all. I know I found the answer of the world. And I think that's been very health one.

Siavash Fashi [00:29:03]:

People love to help me.

Bryan McAnulty [00:29:06]:

Yeah. Yeah. That's an excellent point. Alright. Awesome. Well, I've got, 1 more question for you today, and that is that on the show, we like to have each of our guests ask a question to the audience. So if you could think of anything to ask our audience whether it's It's something you're curious about, something you wanna get everybody thinking about. What would that be?

Siavash Fashi [00:29:25]:

I wanna ask your audience to sit down and analyze. Next time when you are under pressure, when you under pressure, how do you react to this? Do you fall? Do you go home and go under the put a blanket and grab a pillow? Or you confront the issue, or you get more aggressive. Which one are you? Find yourself. Why why you acting that way? And just if you find this Answer to this, you will get to know yourself a little better. So I'm gonna leave it to them to analyze themselves on this. Not to analyze analyze themselves. How do they react when the top and the obstacle hits you? Do you look for solution or you look for a you look for somebody to, just talk about empathy and stuff. 1 empty.

Siavash Fashi [00:30:07]:

You wanna you wanna go find a solution. You wanna confront the issue, which in my opinion, The, that's that's what I've been doing, but I wanna I wanna I'm curious on what you're doing when are you on

Bryan McAnulty [00:30:17]:

depression. Awesome. Yeah. Great thing to think about. Alright. Well, Sebastian, thank you so much for coming on the show. Before we get going, where else can people find you online?

Siavash Fashi [00:30:27]:

The the best way is a 6 packs gym .com. And the the the best one, if you Go to a small gym big results .com as well. This is the book, and, you you will see my, story. And, of course, this is the best way to get ahold of me. If you go to this website, a small gym, big results .com.

Bryan McAnulty [00:30:50]:

Alright. Awesome. Thanks so

Siavash Fashi [00:30:51]:

much. Thank you. Thank you for having me, Brian.

Bryan McAnulty [00:30:54]:

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